'TLDR can be found at the bottom of this post (but please actually read)'
(you can find a guide on how I colored this text here)
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Based on who has been awarded this badge I’m led to believe its automated algorithm that picks who gets it, if it isn’t I’m interested in what the person(s) criteria is for “excellent overall contributions”
I will be mentioning two people in this post but only as examples to examine how this badge is awarded. I am in no way saying that the two people do not deserve their badges and instead congratulate them on receiving the badge.
Additionally, everything I write here is based on hypothesis since there is no readily available confirmed information
As examples I will be using the two most recent receivers of the badge:
Note: I did check their activity for replies but there was nothing significant for both of them, I only use their topics for examples.
i_Pope’s contribution that got them the badge was clearly their post on a detailed informational map of vesteria that can be found Here
With a impressive 1k views it makes sense why it would be deserving of the badge.
But the badge mentions likes so lets examine that
- 33 +1’s and 3 hearts (Most likely not relevant or used for choosing the badge winners)
- 21 Likes to date (amount of likes at time of badge awarded unknown)
- 14 replies among 13 users (not a record winning amount)
- 1k views (definitely a impressive amount and significantly more then you see on most posts)
Now the badge mentions that “whom” the post is liked by is relevant so lets take a look at that
- leader - 4
- regular - 4
- member - 8
- basic - 5
Pretty high leader count so overall it makes sense why this would get the badge, it fits all the criteria listed anyway.
i_Pope’s overall contributions are of the standard forum user, but one amazing contribution stood out enough to receive the badge.
Isabelle’s contributions confused me, at first I didn’t understand how they got the badge.
Upon closer inspection
You will notice that 3 of the likes are from leaders (and another like from pizza on another topic) for a total of 4 leader likes the same as i_Pope’s map post (he has more leader likes on other posts as well)
Aside from those none of the other posts have any likes
(again this is not meant to bash Isabelle, it is just to examine the badge itself, I congratulate them on receiving the badge whether it was fair or not)
I read through the lore stories and enjoyed them myself.
Isabelle’s contributions are limited without much attention or recognition but the adequate number in likes from leaders as seen in i_Pope’s post seem to be what has granted them the badge
Based on the information from examining i_Pope and Isabelle it can be concluded that the algorithm for the badge is mainly based on how many leaders like your post.
Additionally, the badge says “overall contributions” but this is clearly irrelevant since they both got the badge from essentially one post that had all the leader likes on it.
As you can see the New User of the Month badge is given to congratulate 2 new users each month for “excellent overall contributions” measured by how many likes their posts receive and by “whom”.
Now this last part is what interests me, it seems most logical that what it means by “whom” would be people with lower and higher trust levels.
Is a leaders like worth more then a members like? If so, by how much? And most of all, why?
It can be argued that they have better judgment of what is high quality but thats hardly enough to justify such a mechanic. This of course depends on how much more a leaders like is worth in comparison to lets a say members, I doubt anyone has this information (anyone who will read this I mean). How is this a fair system? what if no leaders see a post just out of bad luck, and who is to say that they aren’t being biased against someones opinions? The recipients should be decided by the communities likes not the leaders, all likes should be of equal value.
Likes being disabled on some posts
Some posts for unknown reasons have likes disabled (or replaced by votes, which don’t do anything or count towards the badge), primarily ones posted in the game play balance category. you can see one of my previous posts on this issue here
The problem with this is that a lot of posts that are deserving of recognition are sometimes posted in categories with votes instead of likes or with likes disabled, so they don’t count towards the badge.
How is this fair?
(BTW, you can like marketplace posts but not game play balance posts, so you get likes for selling things and advertising but not for helping fix the game? Yikes.)
Ok yes I am bitter, When I first joined the forums one of the first things I noticed was the badges since at first they get handed out like candy for doing anything on forums. So I checked the badge page (something you need to keep in mind is I’m a completionist. I know thats not a real word) and decided I wanted to get all of them. (I instantly gave up on exploit hero and bug reporter but they are their own category so it didn’t bother me)
Then I noticed that there was a time limited badge “New User of the Month” so being a complitionist I decided to try and get it. (this is not exclusively the reason for my forum posting, I do want to help the game and be a productive member of the community, the badge was a “I kinda want that” thing)
Here are some of my most successful topics:
(as of 2019-06-07)
- Debate on nerfing hunters and reworking/buffing warriors - 605 views 11 votes!
- Guide on how to spice up your forum posts with colored text/backgrounds - 99 views
- Comedic SCP submission for Vesteria (could be considered Lore, I guess?) - 108 views
- Guide on honorable Pvp (I actually plan to change this one since its outdated and not really accurate) - 202 views
- This is just my market for ingame items but has substantial views so I am including it - 292 views
I also have a lot of bug reports, you can see all of my posts here (some stuff is unlisted)
Since 11 votes count for nothing despite most posts getting 1 - 4 votes, I didn’t get the badge
I am now forever cursed with this empty space
If your not willing to read most of this topic atleast read “Conclusion” and “Disabled likes”.
If you cant do that either, here is a TLDR
The current method of awarding this badge is unfair and inconsistent, it appears to be completely based off who gets the most likes from leaders not the community. Posts with likes disabled like game play balance posts that only have votes are completely excluded from even having a chance at winning the badge. The reason I say that a specific topic has a chance of winning the badge is because despite the badge saying “overall contributions” its completely irrelevant as seen in Isabelle’s example having only 2 topics with likes out of the total 4 topics with a total of 6 likes (4 leader likes).
All likes should be of equal value
Yea this topic is pretty much just me being salty about not getting the badge ;-; but the current system for awarding this badge is complete bull****.
Thanks for reading.
(Imagine if I am completely wrong and this isn’t how the badge is awarded at all,
oh boy that would be funny)