I’m here making this topic to clear things up for people, not exactly trying to change your mind on wiping the game as a whole.
I’ve asked many people and heard many people their reasons for the wipe, and what I mostly hear is the fault of the economy. However, I disagree with this reason, so I’ll explain.
Why the economy isn’t bad
Or really, why it’s not bad enough for there to be a total wipe of the entire game, everything that people have earnt, whether they deserved it or not.
For this event, let us compare a very popular reason for why we believe the economy is trashed. The cursed attack scroll currently costs about 600s. If we go back in time and think about it, yeah, the cursed atk scroll price has indeed increased from about 100s to 600s. However, I believe that this is caused by the entering of Beta players. When beta players first entered the game, the cursed attack scroll prices were fine. However, as they leveled up and gotten the max level gear such as the webbed staff, the people wanted to upgrade their weapons with cursed attack scrolls. So as the price was 100s, the betas that have fully leveled to 30 began to compete for the cursed attack scrolls, so if they wanted alot, they’ll give a higher price. Perhaps 150s and then later 200s. Along with that fact, less and less people began to play because they already done everything. So when no one accepted a price like 200s, they decided to go for a bigger price like 300s or maybe even 400s.
So if we mix the fact that people wanted to compete for cursed attacks and put bigger prices on them and the supply of them heavily decreased due to:
12 hour spawning for SQ changed to the new SQR. This caused the flow from shooting some arrows to the SQ every 12 hours and then collecting whatever loot they got to rapidly doing a dungeon that usually lasts around 12-15 minutes to get a few eggs and rarely a cursed attack. This meant that people that weren’t as dedicated and just came for the SQ every 12 hours (Think of it as collecting a daily reward) would be unable to get these cursed attack scrolls. This means less supply of the item.
People getting bored of the Vesteria game and not playing, meaning they are unable to get cursed attack meaning they can’t sell it. So less people are selling and more competition.
Betas entering and putting higher prices to compete against other betas/alphas (which is what i mentioned up above)
Along with that, to further explain the demand for cursed attacks in the game, Spider Bows used to cost 900s. This is a very high amount of money for a spider weapon, especially when webbed staff costed very low amounts like 100s. Remember that the chance of getting a webbed staff compared to getting a Spider bow is the same chance. Just like how people wanted to be rangers and have a spider bow, people want to have those crazy +7 cursed upgrades on their weapons.
The level cap will increase
As you know, level 30 is not the complete end of Vesteria. In the future, assuming that the developers keep developing and continue the work of subclasses, we’ll have higher levels to maybe even level 75 (guess)
This means that the new monsters that can be levels 30-75 will drop more valuable loot and maybe even drop more money as a whole. Using this information, this can mean that the one gold that people have now will soon be seen as an amount like 100s.
If you don’t believe me, think about guilds.
Here are the requirements for the guild member count upgrades:
- 10 members (1g)
- 20 members (2.5g)
- 40 members (10g)
- 80 members (50g)
- 140 members (200g)
Look at the 140 member upgrade, 200g seems like an amount that can’t be gained or if you’re someone who can grind or does grind 24/7 on vesteria, an amount that’s very very difficult to get. This is reasonable, because even Berezaa doesn’t believe you can get over 40g. This means that he will make you believe that you can get over 40g in the future when the level cap increases. Even Potm, a popular guild, only managed to get around uhh 90g (rip funds, that got wiped in the 40g wipe).
so uhh 200/80 is 2.5 so everyone thats in the guild would need 2.5g to give to the guild stash (because they gotta be in the guild to give). fun fact
The real (or main) intent for the wipe is the enchantment issue
Although I slightly disagree on this one (because i want to be powerful ), this is probably the real intent of the wipe.
As I’ve shown above, the economy isn’t that messed up and can be fixed without the need of a wipe because:
- The level cap will increase, making what we see as 1g right now look like something like 100s later.
- 40g+ wipe that has been done before
- Something like holy scrolls or other things that’ll make people spend the money they have that can probably fix the economy (orb as an example, that stuff used to take 3.15g if you wanted to bless a stick and people actually did it)
Now, I’ve heard what some of you said. Yes, indeed, people could make alts. However, this can be seen as inefficent to those that haven’t seen the possibility of the 40g+ wipe yet. First off, it costs at least 80 robux to get an alternative account. This would encourage people not to make too much alts or infinite alts to distribute the funds.
Along with that, although this is an opinion, if I were a duper or a glitch exploiter, I would think an amount more than 40g like 80g would be the suspcious amount, so I wouldn’t bother making an alt unless i surpass 80g.
So unless people saw the 40g+ wipe and store 39g in many alt accounts or have a dupe (in which case, why aren’t they reporting it to get much more benefit), they wouldn’t be able to get much done. Remember that this is very very unlikely.
The disbenefit of a wipe
So, of course, there are reason why among the people who want a wipe, there are those who don’t want a wipe. An obvious reason being is that people have put real effort in their characters and have gained high amounts.
Here is a full list of the disbenfits of having a wipe:
People that have put real effort and are dedicated into grinding the game will get reset, perhaps angering them and discouraging rejoining (mentioned above)
People that came to Vesteria were told that there wouldn’t be a wipe, so that’d break trust
New players that come to Vesteria would have little confidence on grinding in Vesteria because people wouldn’t want to grind on a game that has a chance to reset (and have actually reset).
This is a problem that’s showing already, people currently playing vesteria would be discouraged in grinding because why grind for the item you want if all your efforts will just go away.
The problem will repeat itself
This is a common argument for those who are against the wipe. Even if we do wipe to solve the economy, there’s no saying that there’s going to be yet another mistake that’ll allow people to gain high amounts of money in short amount of time.
Having multiple wipes after every single problem that happens that relates to the economy won’t have a good effect on the game. For example, why would I want to spend my effort building in a minecraft server if it resets every 2 months or so.
Of course, this can be solved by having things like patches to exploits or gamemasters, but this can also be a solution to the current problem we have now. It’s not easy to carry high amounts of money due to the 40g+ wipe and the level cap will increase anyway, so if we just keep the gamemasters and putting through patches in the game, the economy won’t die.
Conclusion and solution
I’d like to conclude that the best choice for this situation is that we reset just the weapons enchantments and not the money like option B in the poll
The economy problem is not even that much of an issue, and if it is, it can be solved by simply making sure that people don’t have too much suspicious money (like the 40g wipe) or by other solutions like how the orb worked, which gave people blessed sticks for 3.15 gold (until they did a whoopsie and it costed much less than 3.15g ).
The real issue is the enchantments, and unless you’re a warrior main that only cares for the benefit of yourself, no one wants a warrior holding a sword that does 160 weapon attack damage while your weapon does little because warrior items do more damage than other ones (and the more base attack your weapon has, the stronger the enchantments).
remember to read everything, if you’re against what i have to say and i can just quote myself to answer your concerns, you’re doing something wrong